In Episode 221, Dr. James Bryant interviews Dr. Gretchen Gagel, founder of Women Thriving in Construction Global Institute, about inclusion in the construction and engineering industries. Gagel shares her 40 years of leadership experience, discussing the challenges women face and practical allyship strategies. The conversation covers topics like burnout, the impact of dominant culture, and how to foster authentic leadership and a supportive workplace. Listeners are encouraged to lead with empathy and create inclusive environments for all.